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		By: Adventures In Tipping: FinCon 2017 &#124; The Happy Philosopher		</title>
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		By: AGoodLifeMD		</title>
		<link>https://thehappyphilosopher.com/death-suicide/#comment-9217</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Oct 2017 00:03:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Sad and seemingly more common story. I have heard that physician suicide is on the rise.   I&#039;m sure the reasons and solution are complex. 

 A good place to start would probably be training i.e. medical school and residency. When I was a medical student over a decade ago we had several talks about physician substance abuse including guest lecturers who had lost their license and ability to practice medicine as a result of drug abuse. I don&#039;t think I&#039;ll ever forget those stories, and I&#039;m very cognizant  of alcohol and drug abuse amongst physicians and therefore potentially myself. 

 I don&#039;t recall receiving any education on physician suicide.  Hopefully this will change soon. I know that over the past couple of years I am more acutely aware of my close colleagues mindset as a result of hearing these stories. Like you say, recognition is important.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sad and seemingly more common story. I have heard that physician suicide is on the rise.   I&#8217;m sure the reasons and solution are complex. </p>
<p> A good place to start would probably be training i.e. medical school and residency. When I was a medical student over a decade ago we had several talks about physician substance abuse including guest lecturers who had lost their license and ability to practice medicine as a result of drug abuse. I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;ll ever forget those stories, and I&#8217;m very cognizant  of alcohol and drug abuse amongst physicians and therefore potentially myself. </p>
<p> I don&#8217;t recall receiving any education on physician suicide.  Hopefully this will change soon. I know that over the past couple of years I am more acutely aware of my close colleagues mindset as a result of hearing these stories. Like you say, recognition is important.</p>
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		By: Zoey		</title>
		<link>https://thehappyphilosopher.com/death-suicide/#comment-9203</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Oct 2017 16:25:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thehappyphilosopher.com/death-suicide/#comment-8947&quot;&gt;b&lt;/a&gt;.

Why do you only mention men in medicine ? Is it easier on women in medicine - who are often breadwinners , with a less appreciative or supportive partner ( because society makes men feel less maaculine so they are more resentful than supportive ), with child care duties ...... and patients who expect more compassion and time ... because after all you are a woman !! And added society pressure to still look well groomed ( manicure , pedicure , hair , make up ...) .  Your reply was good other than the focus on medical men .]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thehappyphilosopher.com/death-suicide/#comment-8947">b</a>.</p>
<p>Why do you only mention men in medicine ? Is it easier on women in medicine &#8211; who are often breadwinners , with a less appreciative or supportive partner ( because society makes men feel less maaculine so they are more resentful than supportive ), with child care duties &#8230;&#8230; and patients who expect more compassion and time &#8230; because after all you are a woman !! And added society pressure to still look well groomed ( manicure , pedicure , hair , make up &#8230;) .  Your reply was good other than the focus on medical men .</p>
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		By: Cubert		</title>
		<link>https://thehappyphilosopher.com/death-suicide/#comment-9201</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Oct 2017 13:36:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You&#039;re a fine writer. Thanks for sharing this story with such grace. We all need to be more mindful, aware, and *engaging* of those suffering around us.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re a fine writer. Thanks for sharing this story with such grace. We all need to be more mindful, aware, and *engaging* of those suffering around us.</p>
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		By: ChrisCD		</title>
		<link>https://thehappyphilosopher.com/death-suicide/#comment-9134</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Oct 2017 14:10:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I like Ron&#039;s suggestion as well as giving your number and making that person promise they will call you.  And hopefully, they will.  We all need that person who can talk us down.  

If most people knew just how much they were actually valued, so many fewer would make the decision to end their life.  I don&#039;t view Hatton&#039;s friend in the same light.  They are facing a disease that they can&#039;t win against and wanting to go before quality of life is no longer there.  Although, many great people have lived great lives where quality may have been suspect on the outside.  Still, I can&#039;t hold it against someone who wants to spare loved ones the pain of watching a slow, painful death.

At the very least, we can all do our part to make sure those around us know just how much they are valued.
cd :O)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like Ron&#8217;s suggestion as well as giving your number and making that person promise they will call you.  And hopefully, they will.  We all need that person who can talk us down.  </p>
<p>If most people knew just how much they were actually valued, so many fewer would make the decision to end their life.  I don&#8217;t view Hatton&#8217;s friend in the same light.  They are facing a disease that they can&#8217;t win against and wanting to go before quality of life is no longer there.  Although, many great people have lived great lives where quality may have been suspect on the outside.  Still, I can&#8217;t hold it against someone who wants to spare loved ones the pain of watching a slow, painful death.</p>
<p>At the very least, we can all do our part to make sure those around us know just how much they are valued.<br />
cd :O)</p>
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		By: Scottiedog		</title>
		<link>https://thehappyphilosopher.com/death-suicide/#comment-9105</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Oct 2017 06:50:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[As a Doctor across the pond in the UK&#039;s NHS, this post hits home. It&#039;s not just in corporate US Hospitals the stress and pain is happening. I have been to the dark places, and managed with colleagues help to make a pathway back.
The key here is &#039;colleagues help&#039;. It doesn&#039;t matter who you are, or what job you do - our broken world no longer values real friends. The measure of success is how many &#039;friends&#039; you ave on Facebook, how many &#039;likes&#039; you have on instagram, and how big, brash and expensive your seeminly successful lifestyle is. All driven by the insane economic model of consumption to bolster the nation. 
It is an empty path to follow, that inculcates a culture of &#039;more&#039; and never being good enough for others expectations. 

Against that background, it would seem impossible for individuals to do or achieve anything to change this. But that is wrong, it is only individuals that can make a difference. 100% agree with the HP that YOU can help somebody, by being a real friend, forget Twitbook and Fritter, emephermal narcotising crap for the multinationals; but speak to people, and listen. This will be more real and fulfilling than any number of likes, and as has been said above, don&#039;t play the Corporate Game of &#039;stuff&#039;. So what if a Porsche gets to 60mph in 3s, my Honda gets there in 10s. So what if the latest phone has a gazillion pixels on its phone, if all you are doing is working to pay for it, you aren&#039;t ever going to enjoy it. 
Seek friendship, and freedom. These two things will allow you more riches than you can ever buy.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a Doctor across the pond in the UK&#8217;s NHS, this post hits home. It&#8217;s not just in corporate US Hospitals the stress and pain is happening. I have been to the dark places, and managed with colleagues help to make a pathway back.<br />
The key here is &#8216;colleagues help&#8217;. It doesn&#8217;t matter who you are, or what job you do &#8211; our broken world no longer values real friends. The measure of success is how many &#8216;friends&#8217; you ave on Facebook, how many &#8216;likes&#8217; you have on instagram, and how big, brash and expensive your seeminly successful lifestyle is. All driven by the insane economic model of consumption to bolster the nation.<br />
It is an empty path to follow, that inculcates a culture of &#8216;more&#8217; and never being good enough for others expectations. </p>
<p>Against that background, it would seem impossible for individuals to do or achieve anything to change this. But that is wrong, it is only individuals that can make a difference. 100% agree with the HP that YOU can help somebody, by being a real friend, forget Twitbook and Fritter, emephermal narcotising crap for the multinationals; but speak to people, and listen. This will be more real and fulfilling than any number of likes, and as has been said above, don&#8217;t play the Corporate Game of &#8216;stuff&#8217;. So what if a Porsche gets to 60mph in 3s, my Honda gets there in 10s. So what if the latest phone has a gazillion pixels on its phone, if all you are doing is working to pay for it, you aren&#8217;t ever going to enjoy it.<br />
Seek friendship, and freedom. These two things will allow you more riches than you can ever buy.</p>
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		By: javier morales		</title>
		<link>https://thehappyphilosopher.com/death-suicide/#comment-9003</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Oct 2017 00:21:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Brother, as tears nake their way down my face reading your piece. The reality of being truly real 
has being lost in this society, profession, residencyp program, family and board rooms across the hemisphere. We are a hurting civilization.. I dont know what the answer is- all I know is that my world was turned upside down after the suicide of one of graduated residence. I like you went on with my life ignoring the fact that something deep inside has being consuming my inner soul. I dont know what to do how to help- one thing I certainly do now I give my phone #  to my collegues amd reaidents and like you I tell them to call me if they are down to the point of no return. Is that helpful, I dont know— All I know is that we are all fragile no matter what you might think of yourself. Thank you..]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brother, as tears nake their way down my face reading your piece. The reality of being truly real<br />
has being lost in this society, profession, residencyp program, family and board rooms across the hemisphere. We are a hurting civilization.. I dont know what the answer is- all I know is that my world was turned upside down after the suicide of one of graduated residence. I like you went on with my life ignoring the fact that something deep inside has being consuming my inner soul. I dont know what to do how to help- one thing I certainly do now I give my phone #  to my collegues amd reaidents and like you I tell them to call me if they are down to the point of no return. Is that helpful, I dont know— All I know is that we are all fragile no matter what you might think of yourself. Thank you..</p>
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		By: Solitary Diner		</title>
		<link>https://thehappyphilosopher.com/death-suicide/#comment-8998</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Oct 2017 20:08:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thehappyphilosopher.com/death-suicide/#comment-8947&quot;&gt;b&lt;/a&gt;.

I agree that being financially secure can help to reduce stress and may help to reduce suicide amongst physicians.  But I don&#039;t agree that all doctors&#039; wives want nice cars.  I know lots of doctors&#039; wives (and husbands, because this is the 21st century) who are perfectly happy with practical cars and reasonable homes.  You just have to pick the right one!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thehappyphilosopher.com/death-suicide/#comment-8947">b</a>.</p>
<p>I agree that being financially secure can help to reduce stress and may help to reduce suicide amongst physicians.  But I don&#8217;t agree that all doctors&#8217; wives want nice cars.  I know lots of doctors&#8217; wives (and husbands, because this is the 21st century) who are perfectly happy with practical cars and reasonable homes.  You just have to pick the right one!</p>
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		By: K		</title>
		<link>https://thehappyphilosopher.com/death-suicide/#comment-8985</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Oct 2017 14:15:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thank you for this. As a physician myself who has witnessed both a fellow resident and program director die needlessly from the stresses of the work, I appreciate the caring candor of your post. Too often, we physicians worry about others but forget that our value as humans render us worth being worried about.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for this. As a physician myself who has witnessed both a fellow resident and program director die needlessly from the stresses of the work, I appreciate the caring candor of your post. Too often, we physicians worry about others but forget that our value as humans render us worth being worried about.</p>
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		By: Dr. Curious		</title>
		<link>https://thehappyphilosopher.com/death-suicide/#comment-8977</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Oct 2017 11:04:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The first reaction when someone who *seemed* happy and healthy commits suicide is often surprise. Then, it is questioning why. Sometimes there is a good answer to why, such as Hatton1&#039;s friend with ALS. Often the answer was inside the mind of the now deceased, and will never be truly known. It might be difficult for us to imagine, but we have no clue how much psychological suffering may be happening behind that happy-looking facade.

I had some very dark times in high school and early college. Looking back, I was probably depressed, and the thought of suicide crossed my mind more than once. I never started the planning phase. If I had decided to commit suicide, I think it would have been very difficult to stop me. Over time, life kept moving, things got better, and I slowly came out of it.

I don&#039;t know how to prevent suicide. Humans have always done it, and probably always will. A lack of social connections and lack of a path out of their suffering are certainly big parts of the problem. I think what you do here—telling the story to a wider audience—might help wake some people up who have not been pushed over the edge yet. Thanks, THP.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The first reaction when someone who *seemed* happy and healthy commits suicide is often surprise. Then, it is questioning why. Sometimes there is a good answer to why, such as Hatton1&#8217;s friend with ALS. Often the answer was inside the mind of the now deceased, and will never be truly known. It might be difficult for us to imagine, but we have no clue how much psychological suffering may be happening behind that happy-looking facade.</p>
<p>I had some very dark times in high school and early college. Looking back, I was probably depressed, and the thought of suicide crossed my mind more than once. I never started the planning phase. If I had decided to commit suicide, I think it would have been very difficult to stop me. Over time, life kept moving, things got better, and I slowly came out of it.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know how to prevent suicide. Humans have always done it, and probably always will. A lack of social connections and lack of a path out of their suffering are certainly big parts of the problem. I think what you do here—telling the story to a wider audience—might help wake some people up who have not been pushed over the edge yet. Thanks, THP.</p>
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