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		By: Chérif FENICHE		</title>
		<link>https://thehappyphilosopher.com/water-and-fish/#comment-11621</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Nov 2021 09:01:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi Happy philosopher,
I also have got 30 mn to have lunch and it s very short indeed. Here in France, things have also went wrong for this part of the work day 
Fortunately, i ll be part time 4days a week on 2022.
I do agree for the lunch shaming.
Anyway, i cultivate happiness whch is the main goal for me now at 47 years old.

Thank you.
Take care.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Happy philosopher,<br />
I also have got 30 mn to have lunch and it s very short indeed. Here in France, things have also went wrong for this part of the work day<br />
Fortunately, i ll be part time 4days a week on 2022.<br />
I do agree for the lunch shaming.<br />
Anyway, i cultivate happiness whch is the main goal for me now at 47 years old.</p>
<p>Thank you.<br />
Take care.</p>
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		By: TheHappyPhilosopher		</title>
		<link>https://thehappyphilosopher.com/water-and-fish/#comment-11244</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Apr 2019 16:05:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thehappyphilosopher.com/water-and-fish/#comment-11202&quot;&gt;Jimmzy&lt;/a&gt;.

Yeah, depression can be terrible and his suicide was tragic.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thehappyphilosopher.com/water-and-fish/#comment-11202">Jimmzy</a>.</p>
<p>Yeah, depression can be terrible and his suicide was tragic.</p>
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		By: The Sunday Best (3/31/2019) - Physician on FIRE		</title>
		<link>https://thehappyphilosopher.com/water-and-fish/#comment-11205</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Apr 2019 19:34:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] Can you find time for lunch? The Happy Philosopher stepped away from the PACS system to grab a bite and share his views on lunch and how this meal or lack thereof contributes to the physician burnout epidemic. From the man who brought us Alligators and Kittens, here&#8217;s Water and Fish. [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Can you find time for lunch? The Happy Philosopher stepped away from the PACS system to grab a bite and share his views on lunch and how this meal or lack thereof contributes to the physician burnout epidemic. From the man who brought us Alligators and Kittens, here&#8217;s Water and Fish. [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Jimmzy		</title>
		<link>https://thehappyphilosopher.com/water-and-fish/#comment-11202</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Apr 2019 18:44:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A great post. I have been following your blog in the shadows, and I am a fan. I recently stumbled on to David Foster Wallace&#039;s commencement speech myself and felt uplifted and inspired...until further research led me to learning he committed suicide three years later. I guess feelings of self-focused isolation and despair are part of the process that depression wreaks, but I have a hard time reconciling the wonderful words of secular wisdom in that speech and his final act in this world.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A great post. I have been following your blog in the shadows, and I am a fan. I recently stumbled on to David Foster Wallace&#8217;s commencement speech myself and felt uplifted and inspired&#8230;until further research led me to learning he committed suicide three years later. I guess feelings of self-focused isolation and despair are part of the process that depression wreaks, but I have a hard time reconciling the wonderful words of secular wisdom in that speech and his final act in this world.</p>
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		By: MedMO		</title>
		<link>https://thehappyphilosopher.com/water-and-fish/#comment-11199</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Apr 2019 04:55:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thehappyphilosopher.com/water-and-fish/#comment-11184&quot;&gt;planedoc&lt;/a&gt;.

You make a good point;  I feel that the character of our doctors&#039; lounge changed when it became at least 50% PAs and NPs.  Yes, of course they deserve a break, but it creates a totally different atmosphere that is not as relaxing.
I&#039;m retired now, but at the hospital they started serving free food in the Drs lounge at breakfast and lunch years ago, and maintained a Doctors&#039; dining room in the cafeteria, where one could purchase a meal and go eat in a quiet place - needless to say, the Drs dining room went the way of the dinosaur and I think it was a sad loss.  It was a nice refuge in the middle of a busy day, but as mentioned in the column, productivity became the utmost priority of our corporate overseers.  Glad to be gone.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thehappyphilosopher.com/water-and-fish/#comment-11184">planedoc</a>.</p>
<p>You make a good point;  I feel that the character of our doctors&#8217; lounge changed when it became at least 50% PAs and NPs.  Yes, of course they deserve a break, but it creates a totally different atmosphere that is not as relaxing.<br />
I&#8217;m retired now, but at the hospital they started serving free food in the Drs lounge at breakfast and lunch years ago, and maintained a Doctors&#8217; dining room in the cafeteria, where one could purchase a meal and go eat in a quiet place &#8211; needless to say, the Drs dining room went the way of the dinosaur and I think it was a sad loss.  It was a nice refuge in the middle of a busy day, but as mentioned in the column, productivity became the utmost priority of our corporate overseers.  Glad to be gone.</p>
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		By: ArmyDoc		</title>
		<link>https://thehappyphilosopher.com/water-and-fish/#comment-11198</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Mar 2019 21:45:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thehappyphilosopher.com/water-and-fish/#comment-11159&quot;&gt;The Physician Philosopher&lt;/a&gt;.

@TPP - your actual typo made me smile! “Cavalry” are soldiers who fight from horseback and can swoop in and save the day. “Calvary” is the hill where Christ was crucified - May represent salvation but probably not what you meant. :-)
And “Calgary” is a city in Canada FWIW.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thehappyphilosopher.com/water-and-fish/#comment-11159">The Physician Philosopher</a>.</p>
<p>@TPP &#8211; your actual typo made me smile! “Cavalry” are soldiers who fight from horseback and can swoop in and save the day. “Calvary” is the hill where Christ was crucified &#8211; May represent salvation but probably not what you meant. 🙂<br />
And “Calgary” is a city in Canada FWIW.</p>
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		By: TheHappyPhilosopher		</title>
		<link>https://thehappyphilosopher.com/water-and-fish/#comment-11197</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Mar 2019 16:30:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thehappyphilosopher.com/water-and-fish/#comment-11189&quot;&gt;julietkilo19&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks for the comment :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thehappyphilosopher.com/water-and-fish/#comment-11189">julietkilo19</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks for the comment 🙂</p>
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		By: Gasem		</title>
		<link>https://thehappyphilosopher.com/water-and-fish/#comment-11191</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Mar 2019 19:15:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thehappyphilosopher.com/water-and-fish/#comment-11159&quot;&gt;The Physician Philosopher&lt;/a&gt;.

great Easter pun Calvary vs Cavalry]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thehappyphilosopher.com/water-and-fish/#comment-11159">The Physician Philosopher</a>.</p>
<p>great Easter pun Calvary vs Cavalry</p>
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		By: julietkilo19		</title>
		<link>https://thehappyphilosopher.com/water-and-fish/#comment-11189</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Mar 2019 02:14:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m so glad you wrote again. I was so excited to see it in my inbox.

I&#039;m in higher ed, not the medical profession, but experienced much the same thing. It seems that in many areas there is deliberately more work than time for a normal person to do the work. At the small colleges that I&#039;ve worked there was just no way to ever hire enough people that were needed to cover the amount of work that existed, but not doing something was not an option.

For a long time I worked through lunch or just wolfed down something quick. I got to the point where I realized just what kind of negative toll it was taking on my health. The remuneration was just not worth it. I&#039;m more of an early person so I&#039;d get to work early and put in the extra then, but there was always work that was coming home with me too.

I figured that no matter what, I was working more at both ends of the day, so I was going to take a decent lunch break. When the weather was nice I&#039;d take a walk outside. For awhile I&#039;d exercise at the college gym. Sometimes I&#039;d just spend time getting to know my colleagues. 

It was worth it. I recognized quickly how much more productive I could be in the afternoon when I had that solid break in the middle of the day. Soon after that I&#039;d get on my staff when they would work through breaks and lunch. I&#039;d say that I was being selfish by making them take breaks because then they&#039;d be more productive for me. Hopefully it was a win-win.

Thanks again for posting. It&#039;s good to hear your thoughts.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m so glad you wrote again. I was so excited to see it in my inbox.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m in higher ed, not the medical profession, but experienced much the same thing. It seems that in many areas there is deliberately more work than time for a normal person to do the work. At the small colleges that I&#8217;ve worked there was just no way to ever hire enough people that were needed to cover the amount of work that existed, but not doing something was not an option.</p>
<p>For a long time I worked through lunch or just wolfed down something quick. I got to the point where I realized just what kind of negative toll it was taking on my health. The remuneration was just not worth it. I&#8217;m more of an early person so I&#8217;d get to work early and put in the extra then, but there was always work that was coming home with me too.</p>
<p>I figured that no matter what, I was working more at both ends of the day, so I was going to take a decent lunch break. When the weather was nice I&#8217;d take a walk outside. For awhile I&#8217;d exercise at the college gym. Sometimes I&#8217;d just spend time getting to know my colleagues. </p>
<p>It was worth it. I recognized quickly how much more productive I could be in the afternoon when I had that solid break in the middle of the day. Soon after that I&#8217;d get on my staff when they would work through breaks and lunch. I&#8217;d say that I was being selfish by making them take breaks because then they&#8217;d be more productive for me. Hopefully it was a win-win.</p>
<p>Thanks again for posting. It&#8217;s good to hear your thoughts.</p>
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		By: TheHappyPhilosopher		</title>
		<link>https://thehappyphilosopher.com/water-and-fish/#comment-11188</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Mar 2019 16:43:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thehappyphilosopher.com/water-and-fish/#comment-11185&quot;&gt;chriscd&lt;/a&gt;.

It would be interesting to study that correlated length of lunch break with things like overall job satisfaction, efficiency, medical error rates, etc.Maybe if there was good data showing the benefits of protected lunch time it would be mandated.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thehappyphilosopher.com/water-and-fish/#comment-11185">chriscd</a>.</p>
<p>It would be interesting to study that correlated length of lunch break with things like overall job satisfaction, efficiency, medical error rates, etc.Maybe if there was good data showing the benefits of protected lunch time it would be mandated.</p>
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